Donwload: www.synthcloud.com Here is the list of all patches you'll find into the colletcion, with all the controls provided for each patch: PROGRAMS - SOYCD Pad - SOYCD Lead - SOYCD Descending - SOYCD Hammond - Echoes Piano - Echoes Hammond - Echoes Farfisa - Dark Side EP - Dark Side Hammond1 - Time Intro - Dark Side Hammond2 - ACYL Lead - Brain Damage Lead - SOYCD Pad2 - PF Brass (by The Digital Man) SETUPS: - SOYCD.: Setup for performing the song 'Shine on you crazy diamond'. From C-1 to E4 you have the pad, while from F4 to F6 you have the lead. On C7 you have the effect of the descendig scale.
The A slider controls the volume of the pad, the E slider controls the volume of the Hammond sound. On MIDI channel 10 you can play, by master/controller, the Hammond patch. Footswitch 2 makes you pass to the next setup. Echoes: Setup for performing the song 'Echoes'.
On the entire range you have the famous piano through a rotary speaker. On MIDI channel 10 you can play, by master/controller, the Hammond patch, with the E slider controlling volume. On MIDI channel 7 you can play, by master/controller, the Farfisa patch, with the F slider controlling volume.
Footswitch 2 makes you pass to the next setup. Breathe: Setup for performing the song 'Breathe'. On the entire range you have the Wurlitzer patch. On MIDI channel 10 you can play, by master/controller, the Hammond patch, with the E slider controlling volume. Footswitch 2 makes you pass to the next setup. Time: Setup for performing the song 'Time'. From C-1 to A#2 you have the sound for the intro, while from C3 to G9 you have the Wurlitzer patch.
On MIDI channel 10 you can play, by master/controller, the Hammond patch, with the E slider controlling volume. Footswitch 2 makes you pass to the next setup. The great gig: Setup for performing the song 'The great gig in the sky'.
On the entire range you have the piano patch. On MIDI channel 10 you can play, by master/controller, the Hammond patch, with the E slider controlling volume.
Footswitch 2 makes you pass to the next setup. Money: Setup for performing the song 'Money'. On the entire range you have the Wurlitzer patch, with modulation wheel providing you the 'wah' effect. Footswitch 2 makes you pass to the next setup. Us&Them: Setup for performing the song 'Us&Them'. On the entire range you have the piano patch.
On MIDI channel 10 you can play, by master/controller, the Hammond patch, with the E slider controlling volume. Footswitch 2 makes you pass to the next setup. ACYL: Setup for performing the song 'Any colour you like'. On the entire range you have the lead patch.
On MIDI channel 10 you can play, by master/controller, the Hammond patch, with the E slider controlling volume. Footswitch 2 makes you pass to the next setup. Brain Damage: Setup for performing the song 'Brain Damage'. On the entire range you have the lead patch, with modulation wheel controlling the filter cutoff. On MIDI channel 10 you can play, by master/controller, the Hammond patch, with the E slider controlling volume. Footswitch 2 makes you pass to the next setup. Eclipse: Setup for performing the song 'Eclipse'.
On the entire range you have the Hammond patch. On MIDI channel 10 you can play, by master/controller, another Hammond patch as a lower manual, with the E slider controlling volume. Footswitch 2 makes you pass to the next setup.In the K2000 collection, because of the maximum of 3 zones per setup, 'SOYCD' setup has been divided into 'SOYCD1' and 'SOYCD2'.
'SOYCD1' contains the pad patch, the lead patch and the descendig scale, while 'SOYCD2' provides the pad patch, the lead patch and the Hammond patch. You can go from 'SOYCD1' to 'SOYCD2' by pressing the footswitch 2.
Hi, I was hoping someone could provide me with the synth sounds used by Pink Floyd, in particular the live Pulse versions of tunes. National priority programs afghanistan. Not looking for guitar sounds, our lead player has those down.
I'm just looking to complete the sound of Pink Floyd when we play these tunes. Of course, I'd be willing to pay for this. I just don't have the time right now to search through all the different sounds available and learn how to manipulate them to get what I want. I have Komplete 8.
I am very new to all this electronic stuff so I need a little help. I had hoped to find similar sounds and ended up acquiring a plug-in from a 3rd party vendor Bolder Sounds for SOYCD, my most desired goal. It is a crystal wine glass sample.
According to David Gilmour, they layered crystal wine glasses with the synths in the original recording. The plug-in has lots of potential and is beautiful. Eventually, I acquired Omnisphere which had everything in synth form.
I think the basic style of synths included in Komplete are geared towards Dubstep, Electronica, Dance music and unsuitable for what Floyd was doing. Floyd eventually switched to Kuzweil 2600 boards and sampled their older analog synths. Omnisphere has samples from many legacy components used by Floyd. If suitable sounds exist in any Komplete component I did not find them. I had worked at perfecting a lead synth for SOYCD and WTTM using Absynth but many Absynth patches have an inherent clicking anomaly that turned me off to it completely.
You may track down the Absynth/clicks topic here and there online and ways to eliminate or reduce it but the fact that the presets were not cleaned up before being sold is inexcusable to me. (sorry to get off topic with a complaint). I am using a nice layer for Shine On in Kore along with Pro53 patch for the solo. Run Like Hell is mostly B4II with the drive cranked for certain spots.
The nice thing is, once you have a foundation of patches, you can build presets and performances with relevant sounds. DM me your email address and we can proceed from there. Russ - Feel free to check out some samples on ReverbNation at Some of the audio is wonky as it is a room mic and a rehearsal.
I don't have the video or the audio from our big show yet. It will be posted when I do. Thing is with Shine On You Crazy Diamond is they did so many different version of that piece you have to be specific of which version you want to copy. For the wine glass version I've done that on a hardware DX7-IID which should be easy to do on FM7 or FM8 - you just have to play with the algorithm used like I did on the DX7. Any FM synth should be able to cop that sound. Piano sounds - Rick Wright used Kurzweil K250's. Organ was a Hammond tone wheel B3 I think.
For re-creating Gilmour's black Strat sound first you need a Strat with single coil pickups wound like Gilmour's - Fender makes a signature model of that axe - nice machine. You also need a Hiwatt amp, either the 50 or 100 watt version as he used both at different times.
Delay and the Digitech Whammy pitch bend pedal Gilmour used will help as well. Gilmour's pitch bend is a combo of the Digitech and string bend - it's neither alone. I don't think you should worry that much about the guitar beyond a Strat-type guitar with decent single coils. David Gilmour has used a lot of things during his career including different studio processing every time a new album was recorded. He used a Les Paul straight into the console for the lead in Another Brick in the Wall.
David Gilmour sounds like Gilmour using whatever gear is in his hands. No software amp sim will get THAT close anyway. The closest I have heard Guitar Rig get to Gilmour was mostly due the musician getting Gilmour's style down well enough to improvise in a way Gilmour might improvise. You have to work at playing like him more than anything. It is in his touch on the fretboard, the pauses and then of course the riffs. Here is a guy that seems to get Gilmour.
This guy is not merely playing a Floyd lead note for note. I can imagine Gilmour doing those riffs.: ame='tone out of Guitar Rig/ame.I have a DVD of someone teaching Gilmour leads note for note from a few Floyd songs.
He has another DVD that shows how to apply those riffs to other jams. He sounds like he is just inserting leads from Floyd songs into the jams instead of integrating everything and producing a lead in the Gilmour style. He misses what the guy in this YouTube video seems to have grasped.
I don't think you should worry that much about the guitar beyond a Strat-type guitar with decent single coils. David Gilmour has used a lot of things during his career including different studio processing every time a new album was recorded.
He used a Les Paul straight into the console for the lead in Another Brick in the Wall. David Gilmour sounds like Gilmour using whatever gear is in his hands. No software amp sim will get THAT close anyway. The closest I have heard Guitar Rig get to Gilmour was mostly due the musician getting Gilmour's style down well enough to improvise in a way Gilmour might improvise. You have to work at playing like him more than anything.
It is in his touch on the fretboard, the pauses and then of course the riffs. Here is a guy that seems to get Gilmour. This guy is not merely playing a Floyd lead note for note. I can imagine Gilmour doing those riffs.:.I have a DVD of someone teaching Gilmour leads note for note from a few Floyd songs. He has another DVD that shows how to apply those riffs to other jams. He sounds like he is just inserting leads from Floyd songs into the jams instead of integrating everything and producing a lead in the Gilmour style. He misses what the guy in this YouTube video seems to have grasped.
Click to expand.Sorry OP for continuing this discussion. @jackn2mpu, I listened to a few demos of a Digitech Whammy pedal and cannot hear anything that puts me in mind of Gilmour with the exception of a few isolated moments in his repertoire (i.e. Marooned) and he could have achieved that effect with the guitar's whammy bar rather than a pedal. I don't think it is useful in getting the general Gilmour sound. If one unique effect could do it I would suggest using a Univibe (something missing in Guitar Rig thus far at GR5). That with a basic amp, overdrive and echo adjusted properly will go a long way when you are playing riffs in his style.
Easy, Omnisphere in Kontakt. Sorry OP for continuing this discussion. @jackn2mpu, I listened to a few demos of a Digitech Whammy pedal and cannot hear anything that puts me in mind of Gilmour with the exception of a few isolated moments in his repertoire (i.e. Marooned) and he could have achieved that effect with the guitar's whammy bar rather than a pedal.
I don't think it is useful in getting the general Gilmour sound. If one unique effect could do it I would suggest using a Univibe (something missing in Guitar Rig thus far at GR5). That with a basic amp, overdrive and echo adjusted properly will go a long way when you are playing riffs in his style. Click to expand.If you don't think the Digitech Whammy pedal is useful in getting Gilmour's sound then you must not have seen any concert footage of him.
A Digitech Whammy has been a part of his pedalboard for ages so yeah, it's an integral part of his sound. He also uses his Strat's whammy bar as well as string bending, sometimes using those 2 techniques together. He doesn't use just one technique for bends. But those super deep bends and pitch shifts he does is the Digitech piece. Remember that any Digitech Whammy demos you may have seen won't show you Gilmour's sound - all they do is to show basic uses for it. And it's not so much echo as it is delay on his sound. Totally different sounds.
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Click to expand.Those dips could be generated from either method, I agree, however isolate the dips and they do not represent a substantial contribution to the Gilmour sound. He did not start doing them routinely in his leads until A Momentary Lapse of Reason. Those dips and therefore the Digitech Whammy are not the quintessential Gilmour effect having more impact on his sound than several other tools.
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Also, there is no difference between an echo and a delay. It is like saying black and ebony are not the same color of pigment. One company decides they like a term better than the other for their products. Sometimes they want to rekindle the memory of vintage gear and use a term used in a past product like Echoplex. Sometimes they simply feel one term better describes the effect than the another.
Sometimes it depends on what adjustment knobs are featured in the component. Echo or delay are terms with the same definition chosen subjectively by the manufacturer. Those dips could be generated from either method, I agree, however isolate the dips and they do not represent a substantial contribution to the Gilmour sound. He did not start doing them routinely in his leads until A Momentary Lapse of Reason.
Those dips and therefore the Digitech Whammy are not the quintessential Gilmour effect having more impact on his sound than several other tools. Also, there is no difference between an echo and a delay. It is like saying black and ebony are not the same color of pigment. One company decides they like a term better than the other for their products. Sometimes they want to rekindle the memory of vintage gear and use a term used in a past product like Echoplex. Sometimes they simply feel one term better describes the effect than the another.
Sometimes it depends on what adjustment knobs are featured in the component. Echo or delay are terms with the same definition chosen subjectively by the manufacturer. Click to expand.Apparently you have in mind a certain sound that you think is Gilmour's and seem to be stuck in a certain point of time for his sound which is okay. But you also refuse to acknowledge that he has other signature sounds that are a significant part of his repertoire.
Whether he used them all his playing life or not doesn't matter - the fact is he used the things I mentioned that a lot of people will see in concert dvd's and it's a quintessential effect for Gilmour. Something to remember is that the hardware is only PART of his or any other guitarist's sound. A lot of it is in the player's fingers. Gilmour can play anything and an astute listener can tell it's him. Just as Clapton still sounds like Clapton whether he's playing a Strat or ES335 through a Marshall stack or Fender Tweed Twins or he's just playing an acoustic guitar. Clapton used a wah for a goodly part of his playing but doesn't anymore which doesn't negate his use or significance of said effect in/on his sound. Quintessential sound - you have to ask what era?
If you've seen DG's concerts you'd see he uses Strats, a Telecaster, an acoustic and pedal steel. And for Strats he's got a couple of different ones - the black Strat and the red one (which EMG is selling a prewired pickguard/pickup set for), each with different electronics and I'm not just talking about pickups. And don't forget most guitarists don't use those big amps in the studio - they use little low powered pieces. That's so they can crank that sucker and get overdrive without tons of volume. I'm not talking out my hat either - I've been both sides of the glass in a studio. Guitars and keys on the performing side.
More to the point what is a Pink Floyd sound? Can you describe it please.
There is no such thing really as a Pink Floyd sound but what does exist is how Pink Floyd incorporated even rather ordinary sounds in a very interesting and Pink Floyd way. It is much more about the art of how synth sounds are used in Pink Floyd tracks. Get onto that and don't stress too much about what exact synth was being used at the time. Any synth can do the same thing or create the same art. Also they used a Kurzweil K2000 a lot (live) once that came out too.
They often used organ very low in a mix going through a Leslie at its Chorale speed. AT Damn link function. XILS has a good VA for the VCS3 (see above).
There is even a cheap version w/ reduced features. The full version needs a dongle. The LE version does not.
I used a VCS3 Synthi A breifly back in the 70's and I have the LE version of XLIS I think its pretty much on the money, but of course more stable and easier to get conventional sounds out of. Z3ta 2 has a built in sequencer / arpeggiator and a very comprehensive modulation matrix. If you are looking that 'type of sound' rather than a exact emulation it could serve you well. I have only recently been getting into this synth after being put off be the 'Dance' presets. Dig deep and its go a lot to offer.
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On Shine on You Crazy Diamond - the 'horns' were MiniMoog - GForce Minimonsta is a cracking minimoog emulation. For what was used in each album.
VCS3 Synthi A is shown on page 20. SCorey Someone programmed a K2000 patch to play the complete 'On The Run' from Dark Side of the Moon. You just held down a key and it ran through the whole thing. No samples (other than the built-in ones), just K2000 programming. Not really relevant to the thread.
But I thought it was interesting. I have a similar patch I got somewhere for my Korg Prophecy (I think it's called 'VeryPinkVCS' or something like that) - you don't even have to hold down a key - just hit and release any key and play with the controllers for endless fun. Glyn Barnes Seems my link to the article on Floyd's keyboards is broken - try this It opens as a PDF - Thanks Glyn Barnes. Wow what a collection of instruments.
'Hi I'm Rick Wright. I can play any keyboard instrument I want so I have all of them.' With all of that gear his genius seemed to be his ability to come up with 'the sound' required in each passage or song. And never too much or too little of it. All in all, the sound of his Hammond organ fading out at the end of Dark Side still just floors me. What a musician.
When I was with a band we did, 'In The Flesh', Run Like Hell, Comfortably Numb. What I used: In The Flesh: Yamaha S08 Run Like Hell: Yamaha S08, Alesis Ion Comfortably Numb: Yamaha S08, Yamaha SY55 You would need something that can do Hammond B3 Organ, Solina Strings, Strings, Analog Synth. IMO: Alesis Fusion or most any recent sample playback synth Edit: I forgot that you could also use vsti synth plugins.
There are some free cool String synthesizer vsti's. Actually, there are many free vsti's that could do the job. I just found this.
When I was with a band we did, 'In The Flesh', Run Like Hell, Comfortably Numb. What I used: In The Flesh: Yamaha S08 Run Like Hell: Yamaha S08, Alesis Ion Comfortably Numb: Yamaha S08, Yamaha SY55 You would need something that can do Hammond B3 Organ, Solina Strings, Strings, Analog Synth.
IMO: Alesis Fusion or most any recent sample playback synth Edit: I forgot that you could also use vsti synth plugins. There are some free cool String synthesizer vsti's. Actually, there are many free vsti's that could do the job. I just found this: I'm thinking that I can go up to $1500 with the budget.
Would you still recommed the Alesis fusion? Something simple and easy to get used to. I saw Rick Wright last year during the David Gilmour tour (awesome act, especially Echoes.). He seemed to have quite a minimal set up: B3 (with echo that still looked like an old tape echo as the Binson he used in the past.) was a real one, but then it seemed to me he had only one big synth: it seemed like it was wether: Oasys or Kurzweil or Yamaha. You should check the pics /reviews on the Brain Damage site And during the previous tours (during the 90s) he was using Kurzweil (see on the Pulse DVD).
Rar zip free download. In the end of the 80s you can see Korg M1 too (see the pics in the Nick Mason book). So for sure you don't need the 3 tons of vintage gear of the 70s set up;-) Good luck! Keep it easy, buy a Motif ES6.you have all under your fingertips. Especially with the Dave Polich Vintage Keys library (available through motifator.com - I'm not an affiliate, merely a satisfied customer). For the Solina strings, I think you can come close by taking a synth strings patch, tune the filter frequency (LPF) to a just setting and throw some phaser on top of that.
For CN (from the top of my head), you'd need some more realistic (i.e. Acoustic) strings for the choruses and a somewhat softer pad for the verses. I have owned a Yamaha S08 since a couple of weeks. The Solina strings in there (factiory settings user bank) are quite usable, as is the synth trumpet lead (essentially a saw lead). Both those sounds make up a quite good 'Shine On You Crazy Diamond' intro. The organs are a little less on that board, but the Wurly (pretty essential for DSOTM and WYWH songs) is OK when EQ'd correctly.
I think a Motif (or Motif ES or MO) can satisfy all your needs. The same goes for a Fantom. I never have played a Korg for a long time and certainly no Kurzweil, but I guess those'll do as well.
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