I am interested in purchasing a MOXF as its integration with the computer is phenomenal. I will be selling my Motif XS in order to bring the MOXF into my price range. I spent days doing a little research and found out that the best way to convert my voice libraries that I bought from motifator.com is to use the Melas Tools software. I also know that the only way to load all of my songs that I created in the Motif XS into the MOXF is to save them as standard MIDI files.
I have multiple patterns and songs on many different files. Some files have ten patterns on them while others have twenty or more. I must have over one hundred patterns and songs. Is there a way to save every song and pattern as a standard MIDI file all at once, or do I have the arduous task of saving the patterns and songs one at a time?
I assume I would have to do this even if I was able to buy an XFActually, the Motif XF will load the Motif XS data directly. Being the same level (top-of-the-line) the XF can directly load Motif XS SONGs (MIDI Track data, MIXING data, everything). As to whether you purchase the whole Melas Tool set. There are two major components.
The Complete Set which includes: Tools Complete Pack is a complete editor/librarian solution consisting of: for MOXF. Total Librarian Voice Editor Drum Kit Editor Performance Editor Mix Editor Master Editor Separate but of interest to you if you are getting a MOXF is the: Motif Waveform Editor This is a powerful and easy to use editor that helps you create and edit User Waveforms for the Motif XF, MOXF and Motif XS in the most convenient way. It can act as a librarian for Voices and User Waveforms at it imports and converts Voices and User Waveforms among different Motif XF, MOXF and Motif XS files! If you plan on getting a Flash Board and loading your own custom samples to the MOXF the 'Motif Waveform Editor' is going to be essential. This deals with Waveforms and Samples and (as we discussed earlier) can transfer Samples. You do so by actually creating a FILE that can be transferred from your computer and loaded into your MOXF via a USB drive.
As mentioned the size of Samples precludes bulk dumping protocols, so you actually make a Motif XF File (.X3A) and the MOXF can load Motif XF files. If you have any questions about exactly what you get, please reach out to John (you will find John Melas personable and responsive)! Email him directly: [email protected]. Arduous would be doing them over! If you don't want to do that, then how you save your data will be very important in what you are able to recover when you get your MOXF. Here is what I recommend: Not only do you need to save each SONG as a SMF this will ensure that your MIDI Event data will be preserved, since you have PATTERNS, each PATTERN SECTION must be saved as a separate SMF.
(MIDI protocol does not have Pattern Sections, that is pretty much a Yamaha idea as implemented in the Motif/MOXF series). You can make this task less tedious by taking your PATTERN Sections and converting them into a PATTERN CHAIN (take each Section and have it play once so that your Chain winds up A - B - C - D - E - F - G and so on. Each Section set to play its full length once.
Then CONVERT that PATTERN CHAIN to a linear Motif XS SONG. This will allow you to make a single SMF from that data instead of each Section as a separate file. Later in the MOXF, when you load that SMF to a SONG, then you can use the 'SPLIT SONG TO PATTERN' function to re-divide it back to PATTERN mode. Otherwise you will need to make an individual SMF for each SECTION A.mid, B.mid, C.mid, D.mid and so on.
Make sure that each SECTION is clean. By that I mean that notes are not CLOCK SHIFTED by the PLAY FX, that notes are clearly.within. the SECTION. A common error is to have notes are actually meant to be on the downbeat of measure 001, beat 1, clock 000 but are actually in the last measure of the phrase, 4th beat, clock 479.
Or to have notes that extend longer than the Section. Do not be afraid to use a PAPER and PENCIL to write down notes to yourself. Like SECTION LENGTHS. If you have Sections that are all 4 measures in length, then no paper and pencil is necessary, but if some of your Sections are 9 measures others 13 measures while others are 4 and 8 or 32.
You will want to have that information to refer to when you have to use the SPLIT SONG TO PATTERN function. All of this will preserve your MIDI event data that data that is actually stored to the MIDI Tracks. It does not preserve your MIXING setups. And because the Preset VOICE locations in the MOXF will be inevitably different than in the Motif XS.
You want to have a record of your VOICE selections. The Yamaha Motif XS Editor can help, before you sell your XS, use the EDITOR to capture each of your MIXING setups, one by one.
ALTERNATE METHOD to Transfer your Motif XS data to the MOXF An alternate method to creating the SMF would be to make sure all your data is in SONG mode (remember, MIDI specification does not recognize the PATTERN or the PATTERN SECTION, that is Yamaha's thing) so a SONG is the entity that MIDI protocol deals with, which as you realize is a linear structure, SONG is what will be recognized. From the MOTIF XS you can use IMPORT MOTIF XS SONG function to capture both the MIDI data (data on the tracks) and your MIXING setup. This is outlined in the article here: This allows you to capture the entire SONG (MIDI events and will document the MIXING setup) Cubase is able to gather this information from your Motif XS ALL data files (.X0A).
This is better than having to write down your MIXING setups, because at least you will have an accurate record of the VOICES you used in the XS, and it will ease the task of rebuilding the MIXING setups in your new MOXF. If you have never used Cubase before, or if Pattern Chaining is new, let us know (we can give you more detail about these).
Care you take now, will mean less frustration later (when you get your new MOXF). They are similar, in the same family, but different enough so that care must be taken to ensure that your data can be successfully ported over. Basically, with this alternate method, once you have your PATTERN SECTIONS 'chained' and converted to linear SONGs. SAVE a Motif XS ALL data file (.X0A). With Cubase and the Motif XS Editor VST, you will be able to have a complete record of each SONG. The MIDI data and the MIXING data.
Since Cubase can open and extract data from your XS ALL data files, later when you get your MOXF, you can open Cubase and rebuild your data as necessary from your files.
How to Download and configure Midi files from the internet and transfer them from a laptop using a SD card and play it on the LK-280 keyboard using the Key lighting system feature for learning a song.
You can open the.mid files directly in the Motif XF or you can play them from Cubase to the Motif XF. You can choose sounds to play the file in the Motif XF or you can use the XF Editor to choose the sounds. This may not sound helpful, but you have all these options open to you. Place the Motif XF in a multi-timbral mode (that is, either SONG or PATTERN mode). Here you can press MIXING and select as many as 16 VOICES, one for each of the 16 PARTS. Importing a.MID File directly to the Motif XF If you want to load the.mid file directly to the Motif XF sequencer, simply place the file on a USB flash drive you use with your Motif XF Press SONG to place the XF in a multi-timbral mode Select a blank location Press FILE Set the TYPE = SMF (Standard MIDI File) Move the cursor up into the Directory area - Use the Data Dial to highlight the.MID file name Use the RIGHT CURSOR arrow to move to the bottom of the screen and set the target SONG location. Press SF2 LOAD This will import the.MID file to your Motif XF sequencer.
Using Cubase If you wish to use Cubase you simply need to setup Cubase so that when drag and drop the file into an empty project it sets up to play from the Motif XF. Here's how: In Cubase you can setup so that your MIDI file will be quick and easy to assign all the tracks to Motif XF Go to your Cubase 'Preferences.' MIDI MIDI FILE you want to set the IMPORT OPTIONS: Check: 'Import dropped File as single Part' Clear all the others options. Click APPLY Click OK When this is activated and you drag and drop a MIDI file into the project, the whole file will be placed on a single track.
This is exactly what we want. But before we actually do that you can setup the Motif XF as a VST within Cubase. Launch Cubase Open a NEW PROJECT use the EMPTY template Create a NEW FOLDER on your computer (not on the USB stick) to house your Project as directed by Cubase Go to DEVICES VST INSTRUMENTS Click in the first empty item on the instrument rack EXTERNAL Motif XF VST You will be asked if you want to create a MIDI Track assigned to this VST device.
By creating a track assigned to the Motif XF VST, this prevents us from having to individually assign each track (manually). Set the MIDI CH = ANY (literally 'ANY') You can now drag 'n' drop the.MID file in the empty track data area, at Measure 1. You can use the MIDI DISSOLVE PART function to split the MIDI data out to separate tracks, by MIDI Channel, if you wish (you only need to if you need to edit it, some prefer it, some don't). If when you click on MIDI, the DISSOLVE PART function is 'greyed out' - you must highlight (select) the track data area in Track view window. Set the dialog box that opens to separate the data by MIDI channel. I have a question on midi files.
When I download a.mid file to Cubase AI 8 the file separates into 12 tracks(see attached). When I import the file to the XF7 it opens only 6 tracks and the instruments are very different from Cubase (Cubase sounds like the record). I have tried changing the instruments in SONG and PATTERN modes, going into RECORD, selecting a new instrument, storing the file. When I hit play the song or pattern reverts back to the original instruments imported with the.mid file. This is my first experience using SMF’s, but not having much luck. Why doesn’t the Motif open a.mid file the same way Cubase does? I have a question on midi files.
When I download a.mid file to Cubase AI 8 the file separates into 12 tracks(see attached). When I import the file to the XF7 it opens only 6 tracks and the instruments are very different from Cubase (Cubase sounds like the record).
I have tried changing the instruments in SONG and PATTERN modes, going into RECORD, selecting a new instrument, storing the file. When I hit play the song or pattern reverts back to the original instruments imported with the.mid file. This is my first experience using SMF’s, but not having much luck. Why doesn’t the Motif open a.mid file the same way Cubase does? I have a question on midi files.
When I download a.mid file to Cubase AI 8 the file separates into 12 tracks(see attached). When I import the file to the XF7 it opens only 6 tracks and the instruments are very different from Cubase (Cubase sounds like the record). I have tried changing the instruments in SONG and PATTERN modes, going into RECORD, selecting a new instrument, storing the file. When I hit play the song or pattern reverts back to the original instruments imported with the.mid file. This is my first experience using SMF’s, but not having much luck.
Why doesn’t the Motif open a.mid file the same way Cubase does? I have tried zipping the files to show what I am talking about, but they are larger than the 2mb allowed.
Midi File Converter Mac
One Way To Convert MC-500 MKII Songs To Standard Midi Files Introduction Hi there fellow MC-500 MkII users. I have written this page to help all of you who face a problem that is very simple to overcome; that problem being converting your MC-500 MKII songs to Standard Midi Files (SMF) or vice versa. I have tried to help many of you who have posted messages to the newsgroups so rather than write the same message each time I shall attempt to put all the instructions here. Since I have done this I guess I should put all the mumbo jumbo that if by following these instructions your computer explodes or MC-500 disintegrates tough luck it is not my fault. So there it is, consider yourself warned. Please don't email me any complaints, I will accept only thanks and if you are really grateful I will accept any of your results (ie.
High Quality Midi files). So there are the rules if you don't like go play with your MC in someone else's cyber yard. Now on with the procedure. Step 1 Creating a disk readable on both the PC and MC-500 The first and most IMPORTANT thing to realise is that the MC-500 uses DOUBLE DENSITY disks NOT the usual high density disks used by your PC. So you will need a couple of DOUBLE DENSITY disks before you start. I have tried the old 'sticky taping over the hole on the right hand side of a High Density disk trick' BUT this DOES NOT seem to work with Ucopy and the MC-500.
The second thing you need to realise is that MC-500 disks (ie disks formatted by the MC-500) cannot simply be stuck into a PC and then viewed using File Manager/Explorer nor can files be copied by this simple manner. A disk needs to have the appropriate formatting files before it can be read on that system. Like when you stick a PC disk in a Mac the Mac will automatically write a few files and folders on to the disk so that it can read it. So here we go with Step 1. S.1 Format a DOUBLE DENSITY disk on your PC. NB you can't format a DD disk to 1.4 Mb you will have to format it to 720 k. S.2 Download the S-MRC data disk files (206K) from Roland.
S.3 Once the download is successful unzip all of the contents of SMRC20.ZIP to the DOUBLE DENSITY disk that you formatted in S.1. S.4 This disk should now be readable on BOTH you PC and MC500. You may want to do another 1 or 2 dual read disks. Check that your disk works by booting your MC-500 with your USUAL SYSTEM disk, load a song and then try and save it on your new PC/MC disk. NOTE: the MC-500 will not boot using the PC/MC disk you just created.
Into the White 17. Dig for Fire 20. Where Is My Mind? Planet of Sound 23. Alec Eiffel 22. Pixies doolittle rar zip free.
Now take the PC/MC disk out and put it in your PC you should be able to see the song you saved (in amongst all the other files) I think it will have a.sng extension. If you are wanting copies of the MC-500 SYSTEM DISKS proper they are available at the bottom of this page. To make system disks from the files below you MUST use Ucopy and the process detailed in Steps 3 and 4, substituting smf.zip for the system disk you require. Download and install the disk copying program Ucopy As stated earlier you cannot simply place the disk containing MRM software needed to convert your sequences into your PC, zip up the files and then post them on the net. If it was that easy this page wouldn't exist.
The only way I can provide a copy of the software is to take a 'disk image' of a MRM disk and make this available. To do this I have had to use a program called Ucopy which is freeware and importantly GOOD to create the disk image. Since I have used Ucopy you too will have to use Ucopy to read the disk image. At this point I'd like to add a big THANK YOU to Brien Malone who has provided us all with a patched version of Ucopy that will now run of Pentium II processors and above. So lets download Ucopy! 2.1 Download Ucopy.zip by clicking. Once the download is complete create a directory on your hard drive called ucopy and unzip all the contents of Ucopy.zip to it.
I have found to that there may be a Y2K problem here with the MC & Ucopy so before you go further change you computer's date to before 2000. I suggest 1995. Download the conversion software (MRM-500) for the MC500 Here is where I stick my neck out.
I was told by someone in the music industry that Roland have been making the MRM-500 software available free of charge. This software allows the MC500 to convert it's own format (MRC) to standard midi files (SMF). I am placing a disk image generated by the software for download from this site. If you are from Roland and this in NOT the case please let me know and I will remove it immediately. If you want a copy of the MRM-500 system generating disk see the bottom of this page. 3.1 Download smf.zip (57 k) by clicking.
When you have downloaded the file unzip it and save the enclosed smf.dat file somewhere simple because you will have to MANUALLY type in its location later. If you have a directory called C: temp (most of you should have this) save it in there. Once the download is complete print this page because the next step is to log off and go to good 'ol DOS. Remember to set your clock back to pre-2000. 3.2 Reboot your computer in DOS and start Ucopys.exe.
If you have followed the instructions type C: ucopy ucopys.exe at the C: prompt. Go to the configuration screeen of Ucopy F3 and make sure there is a x beside every option. Place a blank DOUBLE DENSITY disk in your A-drive. Now select H-Drive as your source drive and A-Drive as your target drive, hit OK. You will now be prompted for the smf.dat file located on your hard drive which will be C: temp smf.dat if you saved the file in the temp dir as suggested. Once you have the location for the smf.dat file typed in hit ok and ucopy will start copying the files to the floppy.
Perform your conversions. You're almost there. Once Ucopy has finished copying all the data to your floppy you should have all the tools required to convert files at will. 4.1 When ucopy has finished copying all the data to the DD disk take it out and use the disk to boot your MC500. Hopefully the MC500 will boot up and you will be asked what type of conversion you want to do: 1. MRC - MID 2.
MID - MRC As you can see you can convert both ways this is where the dual MC/PC disk you made in Step 1. Comes into play.
You can copy your.mid files from your PC onto it to convert them to MC-500 format or save your files converted to.mid onto it so that it can be read by your PC. Best of Luck YEAR 2000 UPDATE We are now in a new millenium and Roland certaining won't have any old MC software lying around for sale so I will be making all that I have available below. All the system and data disk files will need Ucopy to write to disk. SYSTEM & DATA DISKS - MRC Version 1.00 Why? Cos people have asked for it. The FULL V.2.00 system disk - MC-300 System Disk - SMF Converter - System Generator - Performance Software - System Generator - Bulk Librarian - System Generator - Rhythm Bank - Data Disk NB This is NOT a system disk. Disk contains rhythm tracks ONLY.
As a special treat I converted all the MRD files to MIDIs. MANUALS in PDF Format ( NB The MC Manual is a 2 part self-extrating archive. You must download both parts to disk before running mc500manual.exe) (NB: This is a copy of a copy, quaility is not exceptional) (1.66MB) (Link is directly to Roland US) REVIEWS in PDF Format.
I've had same problems. And I think I found the problem. And created patch for it. And it works only when sound order matches GM drum map. Diff is attached. Please test it. It would be great if instrument (sound) could have a user settable midinote property.
Edit: couldn't attach the diff-file, so here it is: (watch formatting) Index: SMF.cpp - SMF.cpp (revision 288) SMF.cpp (working copy) @@ -24,7 +24,7 @@ #include #include - +#include #include using std::vector; @@ -230,7 +230,7 @@ SMFTrack.pTrack1 = new SMFTrack( 'Hydrogen song!!' Hello I am using Samplitude SE under windows. Because I have no drum editor I use Hydrogen on windows and I like this program very much. The MIDI problem seems not to be solved so I am looking for a MIDI File conversion.
Smf File Converter
I tried to do it myself but I failed. So I found the MIDI Disassembler which converts MIDI files to readable text. So I looked to the patch from 2Late but I don't understand it. What parameters in the MIDI-file do I have to change? I think this would be a nice workarround to use hydrogen with GM under windows.! Thanks in advance, weix.
Hello I've got the same problem. The MIDI Export function doesn't work, although I'm using the GMKit. So I wrote a little program to solve this problem. It's called 'h2midi' and it converts a h2song file to a midi file. Just open a command box and type 'h2midi '.
The midi file will be created in the same directory. H2midi is under GPL, because I used source code from Hydrogen to read the h2song format. You should be able to compile it under linux and windows ( using mingw or cygwin ) with 'make'. I hope I could help you. If you find bugs, please report them to me.
H2midi can be downloaded here. I dont know which is the right way to bring a pattern into song, if i use the demo song i become no possible files, this is the txt from the midi file which was created with demo song. So i have a new pc and i had a new windows, in the next time i will install hydrogen for the 1. Time, but i dont will become same as last, so i has one question, is anybody here which can give a step by step one by one faq. Which describes the complete way to install the programm + the special prgramms.
PS: What is a bug. Bug is a feature that is listed but dosnt work. In my hydrogen i had the option midi export. But this funktion dosnt work.
There seems to be an odd bug in this release: when I export a midi file, the note values increase by a fixed amount for each note on/off. I tested with a small file, consisting of 8 notes, with pitch=0 key=C0 length=-1 instrument=5 and positions 0,48,96,120,168,216,264,336. Here is the mf2t list of the exported midi file: MFile 1 1 192 MTrk 0 Meta SeqName 'Hydrogen song!!'
OK, so since there was no response to my previous email about a MIDI converter, I went away and wrote one myself. At the moment, the converter will take a hydrogen file and convert it to a Type 1 MIDI file. This type of file works best for pattern libraries and for importing into a MIDI sequencer. Each pattern is assigned to its own track, and the patterns are arranged in the same order as they are in Hydrogen.
I have also added space before each one so that if you load the file into a MIDI player it will play through each pattern in order. At this time I have ignored the song information. Since I just use Hydrogen for creating drum loops to jam with, this is fine for me, but it may not be fine for someone who has actually created a song.
However, I would imagine song writers would import the song into a sequencer and then simply arrange the patterns into their song again. I have also provided the ability to create/use drum maps. If you run the program with -c then it will create an XML drum map file from the Hydrogen file. You can then edit this to map the drums to the right MIDI note numbers, and then tell the program to use the map when it writes the file.
To use, unzip the file (I have included a sample file and some maps) and run 'java -jar Hydrogen2MIDI.jar' for help Have fun! I didn't use hydrogen anymore, and so I didn't follow its development and forgot about my h2midi project. I'm sorry for this. I haven't tested daffy's converter yet, but its description sounds nice and it's written in java (which a great advantage in my eyes). Anyway, I've uploaded the original h2midi program once again, perhaps some still needs it for any purpose. If someone knows a good filehoster, please tell me.
I just choose this one, because I uploaded the program there as I published it the first time. Blaubaer, in the off chance that you read this, I'd like to try out your converter. I can't get daffy's to work. It's just making a blank midi file (I could go into detail on my experience using it). It would still be awesome if Hydrogen could fix this bug.
I'd love to be able to make beats in Hydrogen, and them open up the midis in Reaper or something, so that I could finish the song. Hydrogen is kind of useless with this feature not working. I guess for now I could open up the songs on my linux box and convert them to midi there! Edit: I should note that this is currently a mac osx issue.